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December 3, 2009

How Conservatives Lost America.

Our country is in the midst of a civil war.  No guns are being fired, no physical casualties are being reported, but the fault lines of this conflict run every bit as deep as they did in 1865.  This civil war is cold.  It is a Cold War for the soul of America.  And this time it doesn’t look like the good guys are winning.  We are getting our butts kicked.  It has nothing to do with Barack Obama, or Nancy Pelosi. Republicans could win the next ten presidential elections, and it wouldn’t change a damn thing.  Here’s why:

Conservative Weakness #3: Conservatives hold very few of the key social institutions, and those left are isolated and under assault. Since the 1960’s the progressive movement infiltrated and seized so many of our institutions they have surrounded and isolated conservatives from each other. They wholly own the courts, education, private and public sector unions, vast stretches of local, state, and federal bureaucracies, and the news media. They’ve made significant inroads into the Republican Party. Under Obama, they now have new beachheads in finance, industry, and healthcare.

Conservatives hold small enclaves in the shrinking Christian community, the military, law enforcement, and talk radio. We are surrounded. Progressive brilliantly conquered our institutions by patiently converting power to money, and money to power, in a bottom-up approach. Starting with our children in the 1960s, they now hold the heights of economic and political power. They have outflanked conservative at every turn, even when conservatives thought they were winning. This is why the few remaining conservative enclaves are doomed.

Conservative Weakness #4: Conservatives lost popular culture. We lost it for good in the 1960s, but progressives were at work in Hollywood years earlier. Regardless, it’s gone. There is NO significant conservative foothold anywhere in entertainment. Conservatives only exist in force in the niche talk radio field and on the internet. More importantly, conservatives have no mass media access or pipeline to the youth. Conservatives are cut off from the future.

Conservative Weakness #5: There are no Conservatives beyond American shores. Progressivism is European socialism repackaged with a heavy dash of Marxism and a splash of Fascism. It’s the staple political diet for the rest of the world. Conservatism, based on natural rights and personal liberty, has no formal movement beyond the US. [While] Progressives routinely draw upon resources and support from kindred Social Democrat movements in Europe and elsewhere. American conservatives are alone.

That there is some hella writing….

But there is hope.  Keep reading.


  1. How very sad and tragic. The world has moved on, leaving you and your
    “truly conservative” world view behind.

    Honestly, I think that part of the problem is the whole idea of the paradigmn of “being a conservative” or “conservatism.” By its very nature, conservative is always looking backward and trying to maintain the status quo of the day. And, that works if the status quo of the day works for you. But, if all you have to offer is conserving today, then you automatically alienate yourself from those who aren’t happy today, who need more today, who are damaged or harrassed or discriminated against by today.

    Could it possibly be that the idea of conservatism that lost it first major losses in the 60’s just doesn’t resonate for persons living in a 21st Century or Post-Modern? Does it have to be that the Progressives have just played the game better or outsmarted conservatives?? Isn’t it possible that the real problem is that your conservative perspective assumes / presumes two fixed positions — Progressive v. Conservative — when many people today see life and the world and politics in evolving continua???

    Comment by LawGirl — December 3, 2009 @ 10:58

  2. One thing I have learned over the years is how quickly things change. I don’t believe liberals (progressives, no way) have played the game better. They merely had supporters in large groups that thought they would benefit more from the left than the right. The Unions, The Black community, The Gay community, The Illegal alien community. etc: Small groups that voted based on what they could get. The larger by far group, namely plain old white America didn’t come together as a group. Will the normal guy now see the wisdom of voting for America to contradict the voting of special interest, gimme groups?
    Obama was an experiment to many. Would the rest of the world love us if we elected a socialist minority member to the office of president? Well we have our answer. HELL NO.
    Expect a big turn around in the next election. The majority of Americans can’t be that dumb..

    Comment by greyrooster — December 3, 2009 @ 11:29

  3. >>Isn’t it possible that the real problem is that your conservative perspective assumes / presumes two fixed positions — Progressive v. Conservative — when many people today see life and the world and politics in evolving continua???

    This I find interesting. But isn’t your “evolving continua” just Progressive with another name? Sneaky lawgirl! You are partly right though. Conservatism is a hard sell, no doubt. It’s a hard sell the way broccoli and regular exercise is a hard sell. The stuff is good for you, but oh such a drag. It’s grownup fare, unlike the mac and cheese and pizza the kiddos clammour for. To me that’s the difference between the two, and why this battle seems so futile. Like greyrooster hints at, given a choice, democracy is a race to the bottom. Whoever promises the most free goodies, the least responsibilities, the fewest limits, has the advantage and will win. The proof is in the pudding.

    Comment by Jesusland — December 3, 2009 @ 12:25

  4. Sorry, dude. There’s more to my point than feeling good and avoiding greens. Although I can certainly understand the appeal of drawing such a simplistic analogy.

    My point, at least in part, is that the type of dichotomy that the Conservative v. Progressive is part of the problem that Conservatives are facing. Most of life — politics and religion included — doesn’t fall into either one bucket or another. A political movement which only supports black and white choices doesn’t mesh with Post-Modern thought.

    And, you completely missed my point about the comfort zone that Conservatism embraces. Conserving is only interesting, attractive, supportable when you you are comfortable with or benefitting from that which is being conserved. I’m not persuaded that disinterest in Conservatism is about personal greed or selfishness. In fact, conservatism and maintaining the status quo seems to me to be more selfish because it limits change and greater access / involvement.

    If Conservatism wants to be successful, it needs to find ways to make its philosophies and perspectives more attractive to those who have been left out of the status quo. Part of that may be to tecognize problems in the status quo like not everybody is on that bus or is served equally thereby.

    Comment by LawGirl — December 3, 2009 @ 15:27

  5. Damn. Didn’t I read the same thing in a manifesto somewhere in the past.
    Lawgirl: You could transpose Liberal where ever you used the word conservative and it would fit just as well. God/nature didn’t make everyone the same. Attempting to do so will always fail. Just the nature of things.

    Comment by greyrooster — December 4, 2009 @ 03:45

  6. Nice talking to you.

    Comment by greyrooster — December 4, 2009 @ 03:46

  7. Always glad to hear from you greyrooster.

    Comment by Jesusland — December 4, 2009 @ 08:15

  8. Harping on making people “the same” is just a red herring. Of course, no one is “the same.” Every person, every life is unique and the differences between us are legion. And so are the common areas.

    However, access and opportunities to the basics of life can be and should be made equal. “Equal” is a goal that will never be fully satisfied and is best measured on a continuum. For example, we have more equality in the 2000’s than was present in the US in the 1950’s.

    Comment by LawGirl — December 4, 2009 @ 12:46

  9. Ha, ha, ha, Depends who we is.

    Comment by greyrooster — December 4, 2009 @ 18:36

  10. […] Filed under: Uncategorized — Jesusland @ 00:01 We have addressed on CCHQ how conservatives lost America, and how winning elections are absolutely meaningless if we’ve lost the culture.  […]

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